one: it did not look like the satanic sign, it looked like the “I love you” sign with the thumb out and fingers not connected

second: People who show these hand signs as proof that a person is Luciferian or satanic are really stretching that hand sign. I used to use the hand sign many times before and see it as a trendy thing and not of evil intent. I am open minded to the possibility, but hand signs mean nothing, so do hand shakes.

that being said, let me summarize a comment that I have given a couple of times before when people accused Ron Paul of being a Freemason. He may have been but think about this, many Freemasons (Washington, Franklin more prominently) helped to found America based on the principles of freedom and “RESPONSIBILITY” that the constitution espouses. The principles that Ron Paul serves and runs on. Freemasonry has had a few different factions within it debating for a long time as to the differences of Morals and Dogma. Many have decided that morality is based on the greater good, not some since of duty to a higher power. Since such is true, for example, there is no need to take into account killing if the death resulted in the greater good. As such, they saw the foundations of the U.S. as a ‘grand experiment’ to see if man was civil and responsible enough to be governed by the rule of law, and not the rule by man. Because there always were despotic rulers in the past, this would be mans first chance to be truly free from rule. Since that time most Freemasons are thoroughly convinced that man has chosen to subjugate themselves through their actions and by their constant demand to be “cared for”. Even if Ron Paul is a Freemason, he is simply offering what the founders offered to us a long time ago. It is mans fault that they did not take it then, and now. Freemasons are not against the idea of a freemen overall, they just believe that mankind is too primitive to rule themselves and it is necessary for a more enlightened society of men to rule them (for their own good). So, even if he is, does not matter all that much. However, I truly doubt it.

On another note, I am not happy with Ron Paul at the moment. He really wasted our energy and resources for nothing. He should not have dropped out and I don’t think he took the campaign seriously which I find offensive.

I don’t focus on hand signs, there is much much more significant evidences to be concerned about then rather somebody throws the horns up. Too many people do that who have no idea what it means to damn people for it IMHO.

I just saw this video of our guy Ron Paul doing the horned hand,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x6inINzThw

please tell me this doesn’t mean what it seems to be!

Your site name, “Truth, Love, Freedom”? The three most important aspects of Masonic philosophy? Truth, Brotherly Love and Relief. Well two out of three is better than most could hope for! Wait a minute… Freedom is the heart of Masonry and one of the most attractive parts of what we do… And Relief takes many forms including educating people when they are uncertain and knowledge is one of the easiest remedies for Chaos and the Unknown…

So how far apart are we truly? It’s a matter of Degrees I suppose…

Please keep up the good work!

Warm Regards from a man that feels that all Mankind is my Brethren,

Bro. James Scott Baird
Mt. Lebanon Lodge #32
Laconia, NH

In other words a global movement from individualism to collectivism.

Just wanted to make that clear…

John